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Les frais de gestion de mes produits sont parmi les plus \u00e9lev\u00e9s du monde<\/strong><\/h3>\n

On le sait que nos services de t\u00e9l\u00e9communications coutent chers compar\u00e9s aux Am\u00e9ricains ou au Europ\u00e9ens. On est toujours f\u00e2ch\u00e9 quand on se le fait reconfirmer. Si les gens lisaient et comparaient ce qu\u2019ils paient en frais de gestion pour leurs produits de placements; ils pleureraient. Le Canada affiche une moyenne de frais gestion parmi les plus \u00e9lev\u00e9es au monde. Les \u00c9tats-Unis\u00a0: 1,42%. L\u2019Allemagne: 1,22%. La Belgique: 0,99%. La Norv\u00e8ge: 1,62%. Moyenne: 1,29%.<\/p>\n

Le Canada: 2,68%. Note\u00a0MorningStar: F. (1)<\/a><\/p>\n

C\u2019est la culture bancaire canadienne dans laquelle nous vivons et sommes accoutum\u00e9s. Et ce n\u2019est pas pr\u00e8s de changer (2)<\/a>(3)<\/a>. On se dit que payer 2,68% par ann\u00e9e, au lieu de 0,5%, si c\u2019est pour se sauver du trouble (lequel au juste?), c\u2019est rien.<\/p>\n

Presque rien. Un infime minimum de 80K$ (net!) sur son bas\"5 de laine de retraite final de 170K$. Plus de 60% du rendement qui n’est pas dans tes poches. Travailler 1-2 ans de sa vie dans le vide.<\/p>\n

Presque rien je te dis.<\/p>\n

L\u2019av\u00e8nement du courtage en ligne (e.g. DISNAT, iTRADE, Qtrade, BMO InvestorLine) est l\u2019une des plus grande d\u00e9mocratisation financi\u00e8re depuis le Dow Jones et te permet d\u2019acheter pratiquement tous les m\u00eames produits, \u00e0 une fraction des frais de gestion associ\u00e9s. Pourquoi s\u2019en passer?<\/p>\n

Payer des frais de gestion \u00e0 un conseiller aujourd\u2019hui, c\u2019est comme allez au comptoir. Avec ton livret.<\/p>\n

Je ne connais pas les march\u00e9s financiers<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Si ton portefeuille est de moins de 200$K, ton rendez-vous ne sera pas avec un analyste de march\u00e9. Il ne te parlera pas des fluctuations du taux de change, de ce qu\u2019il pense des mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res, ou comment il croit qu\u2019une strat\u00e9gie d\u00e9fensive pourrait t\u2019avantager.<\/p>\n

Il va connaitre ses produits, certes. Mais pas, ou tr\u00e8s peu, les conditions pr\u00e9cises dans lesquelles ils \u00e9voluent. \u00c7a revient \u00e0 faire la moiti\u00e9 du travail. Et en investissement, la moiti\u00e9 \u00e7a revient \u00e0 rien du tout. Un conseiller financier \u00e7a devrait pouvoir t\u2019indiquer les perspectives d\u2019un produit, son positionnement face aux autres, le contexte dans lequel il \u00e9volue, l\u2019approche strat\u00e9gique, tactique ou contrarienne qu\u2019il poss\u00e8de, la place qu’il occupe dans ton portefeuille, etc.<\/p>\n

Surtout, t\u2019expliquer pourquoi celui-ci est plus adapt\u00e9, en t\u2019expliquant aussi les autres. L\u2019information sur le prospectus et la petite barre indicateur de risque, tu peux la lire toi-m\u00eame. Ce n\u2019est pas \u00e7a le service que tu devrais recevoir.<\/p>\n

La prochaine fois que tu iras \u00e0 ta caisse, demande lui ce qu\u2019il pense des perspectives du Portefeuille Diapason X relatif au Y consid\u00e9rant la d\u00e9bandade des mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res comme le p\u00e9trole. Pourquoi le Portefeuille Diapason Y ne serait pas plus adapt\u00e9 aux conditions actuelles?<\/p>\n

Regarde le dans les yeux. Prend le temps d\u2019appr\u00e9cier le silence malaisant. Ou les phrases vides. Au prix que \u00e7a coute. Demande lui ensuite comment il est r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9 et \u00e0 quoi sert le 2,5% de frais \u00e9crit en font<\/em> 6 sur le prospectus.<\/p>\n

80% du temps, je performe moins bien que le march\u00e9<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Il est facile aujourd\u2019hui d\u2019acheter des titres qui suivent exactement un march\u00e9 donn\u00e9 (e.g. TSX) pour aussi peu que 0,02% de frais de gestion. Le march\u00e9 cro\u00eet de 8%, tu as 8%. Il baisse de 7%, tu perds 7%. Avec sa gestion active de portefeuille, ton conseiller financier cherche \u00e0 \u00eatre meilleur que le march\u00e9. \u00c0 le battre. Or, on l\u2019oublie souvent mais les conseillers financiers font parti du march\u00e9.<\/p>\n

En fait, les conseillers et analystes financiers sont le march\u00e9<\/em>… Ils ne peuvent donc pas tous le battre. Les coureurs du marathon de Montr\u00e9al ne peuvent pas tous finir au-dessus de la moyenne du temps de parcours. C\u2019est math\u00e9matiquement impossible. Certains finissent bien avant, la plupart autour de la moyenne, d\u2019autres en arri\u00e8re. Mais \u00e0 ce jeu le client perd plus souvent qu\u2019autrement.<\/p>\n

\"5En incluant les frais de gestion de leurs produits, 80% des conseillers financiers au Canada ont moins bien perform\u00e9 que l\u2019indice du TSX lui-m\u00eame en 2015. Malgr\u00e9 qu\u2019ils travaillent activement, ils offrent un rendement net inf\u00e9rieur \u00e0 un investissement passif (4)<\/a>(5)<\/a>(6)<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Ils te diront que 2015 a \u00e9t\u00e9 une ann\u00e9e difficile pour les bourses du Canada. C\u2019est vrai. Pour tout le monde. Donc le march\u00e9. Auquel tu dois te comparer. Le TSX a effectivement perdu 11,1% entre le 1er janvier et le 31 d\u00e9cembre 2015. 80% d\u2019entres-eux t\u2019ont donn\u00e9 un rendement encore plus inf\u00e9rieur. Et en moyenne, c\u2019est comme \u00e7a d\u2019ann\u00e9e en ann\u00e9e.<\/p>\n

Une gestion active, au frais de gestion \u00e9lev\u00e9s, qui performent moins bien que le hasard.<\/p>\n

Un d\u00e9 bris\u00e9 qui coute cher quoi.<\/p>\n

Mon historique de rendement que je te pr\u00e9sente \u00e0 la m\u00eame personnalit\u00e9 que ton fil d\u2019actualit\u00e9 Facebook<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Plus souvent qu\u2019autrement, bien joyeux. \u00c0 la bonne place, au bon moment, bien entour\u00e9, avec beaucoup de plaisir.\u00a0 Ou, dans l\u2019adversit\u00e9, mais avec la bonne attitude pour affronter la suite, malgr\u00e9 les embuches. Il te raconte les beaux moments de sa journ\u00e9e, de son ann\u00e9e.<\/p>\n

C\u2019est ce que l\u2019on appelle le biais de confirmation. Tout le monde fait \u00e7a. On se rappelle de nos bons coups, on parle moins de nos mauvais coups. Les 3 fois o\u00f9 on s\u2019est plant\u00e9 comptent g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement moins dans notre m\u00e9moire s\u00e9lective que la fois o\u00f9 on avait raison.<\/p>\n

Les produits qu\u2019il te pr\u00e9sentera auront g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement eux un bel historique, ou du moins sup\u00e9rieur au march\u00e9. Information inutile s\u2019il en est une. Enrob\u00e9e dans du cherrypicking<\/em>.<\/p>\n

La qualit\u00e9 d\u2019un produit r\u00e9side dans sa composition, expliqu\u00e9e et comprise dans le contexte actuel.<\/p>\n

Le reste c\u2019est du marketing.<\/p>\n

Je te dis seulement le minimum que l\u2019AMF m\u2019oblige \u00e0 divulguer<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Et ce n\u2019est d\u00e9j\u00e0 pas beaucoup. Il y vraiment encore place \u00e0 am\u00e9lioration. L\u2019Autorit\u00e9 des March\u00e9s Financiers (AMF) a effectivement appliqu\u00e9 des nouvelles r\u00e8gles de divulgations des int\u00e9r\u00eats et c\u2019est pour le mieux. Mais la marche \u00e9tait haute et le demeure somme toute assez encore. Particuli\u00e8rement parce que le mode de r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration du courtier va varier d\u2019un produit \u00e0 l\u2019autre. Ceci implique que 1) le conseiller \u00e0 un biais propositionnel et 2) tu dois redemander \u00e0 chaque produit pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 comment ton conseiller est r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9.<\/p>\n

Poser des questions. Beaucoup de questions. D\u2019o\u00f9 provient votre r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration? Quel sont les frais associ\u00e9s \u00e0 vos services? Pas de frais \u00e0 l’achat ou annuel. C’est possible. Les frais \u00e0 la sortie? Ah bien regarde donc.<\/p>\n

Sa r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration associ\u00e9e \u00e0 un produit en dira beaucoup sur ceux qu\u2019il pr\u00e9f\u00e8re te proposer.<\/p>\n

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